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Florida Sheriff Responds to High Number of Police Shootings


Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008
Updated: November 14th, 2008 10:28 AM GMT-05:00

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Story by news4jax.com

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. --

This year's 25 police-involved shootings by officers in the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office has raised concerns in and around the city and also with the sheriff.

Jacksonville Sheriff John Rutherford said the recent wave of police-involved shootings is reason for concern, and he told Channel 4 on Thursday why he is worried.

"I am very concerned about the number of incidents where police officers are having to defend themselves against firearms on the street," Rutherford said.

The sheriff recently received a letter from Mad Dads, a community group trying to work as a liaison with the sheriff's department and the community, asking about officers' use of deadly force.

The letter states, "We must ask you as chief law enforcement officer to ensure all officers use restraint. Deadly force must be used as a last resort or when officer's lives are without question being threatened."

"We know it concerns him, but the issue is reassuring the general public that he is concerned that he is taking the department in the direction and really looking at this and taking it very seriously," said Eddie Staton, of Mad Dads.

The statistics that are troubling for community group includes this year's 25 police-involved shootings. Twelve of the people shot by police have died, 21 of the 25 shot are black, four are white and two are women.

In six of the 25 cases, police were fired at. In all but three cases, weapons were found at the scenes.

In a case two weeks ago, an officer shot and killed 19-year-old Jerrick Hall. Police said Hall was burglarizing a house on the Westside, but witnesses said the teen was just running and he did not have a gun when he was shot.

The sheriff said he has talked to his officers about the high number of shootings and recently reminded them of the rules involved in using a gun.

"As the number goes up, you get a greater and greater likelihood that an officer may improperly use deadly force, and I wanted to impress with them that regardless of the number, whether it's one or four, we have to be right every time we pull that trigger," Rutherford said.

Mad Dads has asked the sheriff to open up the reviews of police shootings to outside agencies and form a citizens review board; however, the sheriff said he does not agree with that idea because he believes it would cause more problems than solutions.

In 2007, there were 19 officer-involved shootings in Jacksonville.

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Posted by Drake, Spencer in N/A
(11/14/08 - 10:32 AM)
"Stoped and Dropped"
I feel sorry fopr every officer who needs to use deadly force on a suspect toting a firearm of any sort, but it's a part of your job, you defend yourself and uphold the community law. On the other hand, if your the one doing the shooting at a police officer (andone in that case) i personally hope you get stooped and dropped by three or four in the chamber. Not to sound violent or anything, but if you pull the trigger, then I'm gonna do the same in your direction.



Posted by Gary
(11/14/08 - 10:49 AM)
Mad Dads has asked the sheriff to open up the reviews of police shootings to outside agencies and form a citizens review board; however, the sheriff said he does not agree with that idea because he believes it would cause more problems than solutions.

Translation: Too much officer accountability is not going to be allowed by this Sheriff. Let the fox guard the henhouse and he promises to be fair and unbiased....



Posted by Tom in Nashville
(11/14/08 - 12:58 PM)
Restraint? Hey Gary, "Mad Dads" can go pound sand. Do these jokers really think police aren't aware of when and how to use force? Maybe the increase is due to an increase in complete lack of respect for the law and those who enforce it. Apparently dead cops are a fair trade for alive criminals.

A citizen review board would be a disaster. Officers risk enough and have plenty of accountability to the agency, the public, and the law, without some do-gooder clueless liberal civilians second-guessing uses of force and painting everything with a racial brush.



Posted by Andy in peoria, illinois
(11/14/08 - 01:02 PM)
good thinking gary
Good thinking gary, we should give review power to an outside agency with little or no knowledge of the law and deadly force issues. Let them decide if a shooting was justified based on emotions rather than the understanding of what its like to be a police officer and make a split second decision you have to live with forever.



Posted by Scott in Little Rock, AR
(11/14/08 - 02:10 PM)
Homework assignment: review Graham V. Connor (SCOTUS)

Discussion: Explain this decision to chiefs, community groups, media, etc.



Posted by Jake in Southern IL
(11/14/08 - 04:04 PM)
MAD Dads
Maybe these "dads" should quit wasting time trying to find something an officer might have done wrong and spend it teaching their kids to obey the law. I don't understand people's insistence that a problem must be caused by someone else, personal accountability no longer exists in certain groups.



Posted by Weatherman
(11/14/08 - 04:14 PM)
First, Gary, allowing citizens who posess little or no knowledge of police practices, or policies second guess the officer on the road is a big mistake. Cities with citizen review boards can tell you that. Citizens already pay a State attorney to review all deadly force cases involving officers and render an opinion.
First, Gary, allowing citizens who possess little or no knowledge of police practices, or policies second guess the officer on the road is a big mistake. Cities with citizen review boards can tell you that. Citizens already pay a State attorney to review all deadly force cases involving officers and render an opinion.
Second, "The letter states, "We must ask you as chief law enforcement officer to ensure all officers use restraint. Deadly force must be used as a last resort or when officer's lives are without question being threatened." Without question by who? When faced by a gun toting subject, officers do not have the luxury of waiting to get a real close look at the weapon to see if it is real or a fake, or wait for the subject to shoot first. In every one of these cases the decision of whether the officer had to shoot was made by the subject with the weapon or who decided it was prudent to resist an officer with a firearm pointed at them.
Third, I suggest that MAD DADS get mad at their own kids and quit blaming the Police for their failures as parents.





Posted by Gary
(11/14/08 - 04:17 PM)
Let them decide if a shooting was justified based on emotions rather than the understanding of what its like to be a police officer and make a split second decision you have to live with forever.

Or you could let them decide whether the shooting was justified based on an unbiased opinion per the law without the obvious bias opinion of the sheriff?

If they make the wrong "split second decision" it's time to hire people who make better "split second decisions"



Posted by Steve in Ky
(11/14/08 - 04:22 PM)
Maybe Mad Dads should spend more time sending letters to the criminals and tell them to stop committing crimes which keeps causing them to have encounters with police.



Posted by duke in FL
(11/14/08 - 04:44 PM)
What a joke... I got an idea lets blame the cops for doing their jobs instead of fixing our poor parenting skills that has caused a generation of kids that dont know right from wrong. You want to lower your police shootings lower the scumbag population that
forces their hand. Ive been doing this job a while and I can tell you that todays officer is much more patient and overall less likely to use force. So one would assume if they are shooting more it would be the other variable that has changed ie the crooks or victims as the Mad dads would put it. Killing some one is not easy or fun and I have yet to meet a cop that likes it or has done it when there was another way. Long story short if your messed up hoodlum of a child points a gun or in any way threatens my ability to go home and see my kids then they need to understand what is going to happen. Its pretty simple really good guys doing their job wont hurt you if you dont make them. This kind of second guessing its a wonder anyone wants to be the police anymore. Hey thanks for risking your A$$ not only do you have to live with shooting this kid because he was pointing a gun but now we want to publicly run your decision through people who couldnt decide if they want to biggie size at the burger king in the same amount of time you acted. Gary I assume your applying to show us how its done better right?









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