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Who Should Kill a Terrorist?

The Best Defense is a Strong Offense


Posted: Monday, December 22, 2008
Updated: December 19th, 2008 07:12 AM EDT

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KEITH R. LAVERY
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Keith R. Lavery, M.A., is a full-time criminal justice educator teaching secondary education and having taught law enforcement, criminal justice and security courses at the post-secondary level. Keith had a very diverse police career for over 17 years, working in urban and rural law enforcement settings with assignments ranging from patrol to specialized functions, and to stay current in the field, works part-time as a patrol officer in Northeastern Ohio. Keith is currently the Law Enforcement Liaison for the Cleveland, Ohio, Chapter of ASIS International.

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Posted by Nutty Operator
(12/22/08 - 10:04 PM)
Domestic Law Enforcement Response Teams are up to the challege of terrorist attacks. What will/could the military do that domestic law enforcement won't/can't do? Nothing. The threat will have to be stopped, hostages will have to be rescued, captured terrorist will have to be arrested, witnesses question, evidence collected, and crisis/consequence management undertaken...all within the confines of the Constitution. Much of which is out of the Military's lane. We as a nation can't throw out the process just to get a desired product.

The counter assault will likely be a force comprised of multiple SWAT teams, thus the need to have joint training and readiness exercises. Furthermore, long weapons should be standard issue for every officer.



Posted by Florida Cop
(12/23/08 - 12:33 PM)
Given this type of incident..It will be the patrol officers who get there first..and with the AR-15 that most of us carry if we have a good shot it will be taken..



Posted by BPA
(12/23/08 - 06:06 PM)
As a former Tank officer myself, I can only point out who neutralized a nut rampaging through San Diego in a stolen M60 tank--a California Highway Patrol Officer.

I'd love for Delta or DevGru to get in on any counterterror action domestically, but given their worldwide missions, it's unlikely they'll get geared up, arrive on scene and move to contact before local LE has finished things--for better or worse.



Posted by Mike in tucson,az
(12/24/08 - 10:15 AM)
Who will handle terrorists
Who will be first on the scene.In order.1.The armed citizen.2.The cops.3.? Military not even a factor.However once we take the armed citizen out of the occasion then its only the cops.That there arent enough of.



Posted by Chris in Columbus, Ohio
(12/24/08 - 10:49 AM)
Who Should Kill a Terrorist
Given the word, "Terrorist" we as the LE community need to be forward thinking, with active shooters, crazies with a gun, and the trained terrorist, the arriving officers must be prepared.... and hopefully well trained, I'm teaching the SAS theory, Speed, Aggression and Surprise, be pepared to engage the shooter, and stop the threat, we all need to think forward and go home safe at the end of the shift.



Posted by Steven in Tampa, FL
(12/29/08 - 08:44 AM)
Use of Force on a Terrorist
All good comments. I would also point out that there is a difference in a mindset and tactics. A long gun is good for engaging a terrorist with a bomb vest from a distance but keep in mind that if LE is the primary on scene then those officers may have to neutralize i.e. intentially kill the threat up close. Just because you have momentarily stopped a threat doesn't mean it is over, especially when the terrorist is attempting to reach for a butten/switch. Not to mention most of this will be covered by the media. To make a short post longer the take away is have SWAT units integrated the proper TTPs to deal with a terrorist(s). (Disclaimer: I'm not LE but Mil)



Posted by Avenger2354 in Loudoun VA
(12/30/08 - 03:36 PM)
SDPD
BPA, it was not the CHP that terminated the crazed tank operator. It was two San Diego PO's.



Posted by BB
(12/30/08 - 05:02 PM)
Who should kill a Terrorist?
Whast kind of question is that? Anyone who gets a chance!



Posted by lobo0351
(01/06/09 - 09:03 PM)
as for the tank stuck on the freeway. if the police did not get him, them 2 usmc cobras from pendleton that were armed up would. i believe that they were 10 minutes out.

as for the terrorist, law enforcement can handle the job. i believe that the military is trying to stand up an active duty unit for this, but i am betting that the response is still going to take time. le is the first actual response, but it could well be an armed citizen, off duty officer, or maybe even armed security in the vicinity of an initial incident. i would like to see what the lapd contingent that went to india have come up with. active shooter response comes to mind, and i have seen a lot of agencies close to my home that are training in this. i can see every badge and gun in the area heading to this. one last word, communications.



Posted by Gary in East Coast
(01/29/09 - 09:13 PM)
Terrorists Termination
Terrorists who engage in criminal activities should have no rights. Those they kill,maim or who are their victims had rights too! I've always respected human rights, but with the terrorists tactics being used today, I say we take NO PRISONERS and fight fire with fire. If Terrorists are caught in the act they should be no trial and they should be executed very soon after being caught. Myarters will not be honored, they will die and be forgotten as just like wind.









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